TESTING COMPLETE (APPLICATIONS CLOSED) OneTigris® Upgraded FIRE WATCHER Dog Harness

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Thank you guys for applications! This round's gear testers are as follows:
@VersacenBronx @thrujenseyes for Size L
@JOECROWE @Leah Nosack AKC CGC Evaluator and Trainer for Size M
We try to go with different gear testers each time so please stay tuned and keep the good vibes coming!
Thank you guys for applications! This round's gear testers are as follows:
@VersacenBronx @thrujenseyes for Size L
@JOECROWE @Leah Nosack AKC CGC Evaluator and Trainer for Size M
We try to go with different gear testers each time so please stay tuned and keep the good vibes coming!
Thank You! Can't wait test out the upgraded FIRE WATCHER Harness! Pictures and reviews to follow!:cool:
 
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Emailed overnight to say the package is en-route. Looking forward to its arrival and testing it in a very wet and cold UK at the moment.
 
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Hey all, I just wanted to let you know that it arrived!
We haven't had the time to dig into it and wont until maybe Sunday.
But I look forward to letting everyone know!!!!
Have a Great Weekend!
Jen and Farley
 

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Hey all, I just wanted to let you know that it arrived!
We haven't had the time to dig into it and wont until maybe Sunday.
But I look forward to letting everyone know!!!!
Have a Great Weekend!
Jen and Farley
Hi @thrujenseyes , thanks for updating with us! Looking forward to your review!
 

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Ok here goes my review of the " FIRE WATCHER " harness

Obviously I was one of the successful applicants invited to test their vest.
I was informed my item had been shipped and it arrived the very next day!
Sizing wise I chose a medium. My dog is a mixed breed Labradoodle around 25KG

The first few outings "Dougal" was a bit subdued walked behind me feeling sorry for himself
I adjusted the straps a few times to get a fit that was snug.
The straps have a useful velcro strip sewn on so once wound up towards the main vest, allows the loose strapping to be secured to the strap in contact with the dog. This negates having to trim it or have it flapping about.
After a few days he got over his trepidation and treated it like a collar without any real issues

The lower Y shaped sternum strap is secured with 2 female to male buckles on the front of the main top vest, and 2 more to the rear.
The Y shaped design I personally would have liked to see a few CM longer in order to go under the main vest, In order to give a little more padding and aesthetic appeal. But it adjusts well over all.

The vest is fairly short compared to others so the rear securing straps are pretty much centred on the middle of the chest. This may have been an error of judgement in my ordering. Perhaps if I had gone for the larger size it may have been possible to secure the rear straps more towards the withers. On the couple of occasions I had to assist lift Dougal using the grab handle it caused the rear straps to slide up towards the front straps, and the vest to bunch up. No pouches were attached to the vest.

The main body of the vest has molle webbing strips attached to the side with female velcro sewn over the webbing. It appears robust in construction. The top of the vest has elasticated bungee cord threaded through the molle to create a criss/cross pattern for securing smaller items. I secured a small battery pack for some LED Christmas lights just to demonstrate this feature. See photo below.

Overall the vest is good quality and seems robust. If I had a choice of different styles of vests, is this the one I would choose? Probably not, as I found it too short it really only worked on the upper part of the chest, (more like a sports bra than a vest) if you understand that analogy. Again this may be due to my sizing. or not fully understanding the concept behind the design.

What did work great was the handle. For the height of my dog the handle was in a perfect position for my fingers to touch without bending. There is also a metal d loop for attaching a lead. I live in a rural area my dog walks to heel and I never use his lead.
 

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I've had the vest for about 2 wks now and have been using and trying it out. We are in the middle of our 3 storm for the fall/winter now and pictures are a challenge. I"m planning on having my review done after Christmas, have a trip planned during Christmas with hopefully a picturesque setting and out of the coastal blow.
 
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Ok here goes my review of the " FIRE WATCHER " harness

Obviously I was one of the successful applicants invited to test their vest.
I was informed my item had been shipped and it arrived the very next day!
Sizing wise I chose a medium. My dog is a mixed breed Labradoodle around 25KG

The first few outings "Dougal" was a bit subdued walked behind me feeling sorry for himself
I adjusted the straps a few times to get a fit that was snug.
The straps have a useful velcro strip sewn on so once wound up towards the main vest, allows the loose strapping to be secured to the strap in contact with the dog. This negates having to trim it or have it flapping about.
After a few days he got over his trepidation and treated it like a collar without any real issues

The lower Y shaped sternum strap is secured with 2 female to male buckles on the front of the main top vest, and 2 more to the rear.
The Y shaped design I personally would have liked to see a few CM longer in order to go under the main vest, In order to give a little more padding and aesthetic appeal. But it adjusts well over all.

The vest is fairly short compared to others so the rear securing straps are pretty much centred on the middle of the chest. This may have been an error of judgement in my ordering. Perhaps if I had gone for the larger size it may have been possible to secure the rear straps more towards the withers. On the couple of occasions I had to assist lift Dougal using the grab handle it caused the rear straps to slide up towards the front straps, and the vest to bunch up. No pouches were attached to the vest.

The main body of the vest has molle webbing strips attached to the side with female velcro sewn over the webbing. It appears robust in construction. The top of the vest has elasticated bungee cord threaded through the molle to create a criss/cross pattern for securing smaller items. I secured a small battery pack for some LED Christmas lights just to demonstrate this feature. See photo below.

Overall the vest is good quality and seems robust. If I had a choice of different styles of vests, is this the one I would choose? Probably not, as I found it too short it really only worked on the upper part of the chest, (more like a sports bra than a vest) if you understand that analogy. Again this may be due to my sizing. or not fully understanding the concept behind the design.

What did work great was the handle. For the height of my dog the handle was in a perfect position for my fingers to touch without bending. There is also a metal d loop for attaching a lead. I live in a rural area my dog walks to heel and I never use his lead.
Hi Sir, this Firewatcher Harness is a short design harness unlike the Power Train (the longer harness)

Here are pictures that our users offered and posted for referring:
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And this round of gear testing is for the structure of the vest since some of our customers have had sliding problem on the front chest part.
 

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Hi Onetigres,

Yes I understand that the vest is shorter, compared to some of your other products, and that the purpose of the test was to see if the vest slides. I have photographed it a few times on my dog, similar to the images above, hopefully the photographs capture that it is a good fit. The vest does not slide, rotate or slip in normal use, my apologies for no making that clear.

The points I highlighted above suggest it does not slide about once adjusted to a snug fit, accept when the handle is pulled to assist the dog up over fencing etc. The rear sternum strap sits high up the dogs rip cage /torso around the largest part of the dogs chest. When the vest is put under strain it will still slide forward, although the rear straps will lock against the animals front legs.

The front buckles when being secured may catch on long haired dogs, this could be alleviated by extending the main mounting points on the underbelly, towards the Y part of the vest, so it fits snuggly under the top part of the vest. This would also enhance the aesthetic look of the vest. The velcro strips that assist secure the excess strap I rolled forwards towards the buckles and secured on the underside of the live part of the strap. This created 4 raised lumps of excess strapping close to the buckles. Albeit it is not a great problem and does not effect the functionality of the vest. I I was to modify this vest for a working dog, I would attach ladder lock buckles behind the main part of the male buckle then thread the excess through the secondary ladder lock. This would create a flatter profile with potentially less tendency to snag on undergrowth bushes shrubs etc. Also the velcro in time will wear away become clogged with hair and debris, resulting in loose excess strapping.

To summarise, The vest does not slip, slide or rotate in normal use. The top centre of the vest stayed in alignment with my dogs spine whilst running around the English countryside. I hope that assists clarify my assessment. Please let me know if you need further information/clarification. Kind regards JC
 
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Hi Onetigres,

Yes I understand that the vest is shorter, compared to some of your other products, and that the purpose of the test was to see if the vest slides. I have photographed it a few times on my dog, similar to the images above, hopefully the photographs capture that it is a good fit. The vest does not slide, rotate or slip in normal use, my apologies for no making that clear.

The points I highlighted above suggest it does not slide about once adjusted to a snug fit, accept when the handle is pulled to assist the dog up over fencing etc. The rear sternum strap sits high up the dogs rip cage /torso around the largest part of the dogs chest. When the vest is put under strain it will still slide forward, although the rear straps will lock against the animals front legs.

The front buckles when being secured may catch on long haired dogs, this could be alleviated by extending the main mounting points on the underbelly forward Y part of the vest, so it fits snuggly under the top part of the vest. This would also enhance the aesthetic look of the vest. The velcro strips that assist secure the excess strap I rolled forwards towards the buckles and secured on the underside of the live part of the strap. This created 4 raised lumps of excess strapping close to the buckles. Albeit it is not a great problem and does not effect the functionality of the vest. I I was to modify this vest for a working dog, I would attach ladder lock buckles behind the main part of the male buckle then thread the excess through the secondary ladder lock. This would create a flatter profile with potentially less tendency to snag on undergrowth bushes shrubs etc. Also the velcro in time will wear away become clogged with hair and debris, resulting in loose excess strapping.

To summarise, The vest does not slip, slide or rotate in normal use. The top centre of the vest stayed in alignment with my dogs spine whilst running around the English countryside. I hope that assists clarify my assessment. Please let me know if you need further information/clarification. Kind regards JC
Hi JC,

Thank you for reviewing the updated harness. I see you have adjusted the harness and used a ladderlock buckle, but I'm not sure where have you put it. If possible, could you please share us with your modification? Thank you so much!
 

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Hi JC,

Thank you for reviewing the updated harness. I see you have adjusted the harness and used a ladderlock buckle, but I'm not sure where have you put it. If possible, could you please share us with your modification? Thank you so much!
Hi Onetigris,

Just to clarify, I have not modified the vest, (but if I were to modify it ) I would, place ladder lock buckles behind the male buckle in order to secure the webbing in a flatter profile as opposed to sewing the velcro hook and loop to the ends, which is then rolled up to secure the excess web strapping.

I attach an example from a UK Air Support Bergen I modified, (the excess straps on the 6 external pouches are all secured this way). In my opinion it just looks neater low profile and less prone to snag. Velcro hook and loop might soon deteriorate on a working dogs harness.

I hope the attached photo explains my thought process better than my words,

Kind regards Joe Crowe
 

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Hi Onetigris,

Just to clarify, I have not modified the vest, (but if I were to modify it ) I would, place ladder lock buckles behind the male buckle in order to secure the webbing in a flatter profile as opposed to sewing the velcro hook and loop to the ends, which is then rolled up to secure the excess web strapping.

I attach an example from a UK Air Support Bergen I modified, (the excess straps on the 6 external pouches are all secured this way). In my opinion it just looks neater low profile and less prone to snag. Velcro hook and loop might soon deteriorate on a working dogs harness.

I hope the attached photo explains my thought process better than my words,

Kind regards Joe Crowe
I see. That is a really good alternative for the hook and loop roll up for the extra strap! Will forward our designer!
 
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I will say from my stand point of being disabled and having some dexterity issues, the loop roll up, was a time consuming task for me along with adjusting it and unsnapping the buckles, often it takes me 2 hands to get one of the buckles undone.
 

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I will say from my stand point of being disabled and having some dexterity issues, the loop roll up, was a time consuming task for me along with adjusting it and unsnapping the buckles, often it takes me 2 hands to get one of the buckles undone.
:oops:so comparing the old version of the firewatcher harness, this kind of rolling up+hook n loop strap is more inconvenient?
The designer thought it could help collecting the extra strap.:unsure: