TESTING COMPLETE (APPLICATIONS CLOSED) OneTigris® Combat Dress Uniform & Cargo Pants

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@Heimdall82 @WhispTech
Update of this sizing issue:
Considering there are adjusting parts for the waist of this cargo pants, we'd remeasured the size range of it. And the new sizing chart is being worked on, listing the minimum size and the maximum of which could be. Will post it both on the product page and this thread.
Really apologize for inconveniences we've caused.:cry:
And if possible, it will be much appreciated if your friends or colleagues could help us with this testing.
 

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On Friday when I go into work I will see if these will fit any of the other guards and give the pants to them.

But I will only be able to do a video for the jacket separate. No video for pants unless I get an other pair that fit.
 
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On Friday when I go into work I will see if these will fit any of the other guards and give the pants to them.

But I will only be able to do a video for the jacket separate. No video for pants unless I get an other pair that fit.
It's alright @WhispTech , Thank you for helping us with this testing!
 

Heimdall82

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Here's my fast review for now:


COLOR:

Khaki is a great pants color that i wear at least once a week, it's great because you can wear it as a "casual wear" with a t-shirt or polo and having that "city look" and i also think khaki is the best "all around" color for camouflage, sure it's a little pale but when you use it outdoor, it's become dirty very fast and make it blend very well with your surrounding! In a Canada fall season, khaki is one of the best for duck hunting!

MATERIAL:

60% Cotton, 40% Polyester seem to be a good mix for clothes, material is very nice, seems heavy duty but still lightweight (for tactical pants) and got good stichings, looks like they will hold for a long time. Time will tell!

i would love having some more reinforcement material on the pocket edge since i carry knives and flashlight a lot and pocket edge tend to wear quicly.


DESIGN & SIZE:

For the pants:

-Lots of pokets (we love pockets!) But not sure about the diagonal cargo pockets on the side...
-Not a fan of the velco closure (more on that below)
-Bottom of pants are nice for casual wear, but not sure they will be optimals in a "tactical situation", still prefer it like they are since i would wear these as a casual wear.

Now, for the size..............(sigh)

Actually the 2XL i got will fit for someone in my familly so i'll give it to this person for the testing phase, i can still review them, just don't test it myself!

For the sizing, the chart below show a "standard north american sizing chart" and like you see, 41" is more a XL than a 2XL. I'm not a fan of the "velcro closure" for pants because after some wear (and also when you wear them on a cold winter day), velcro tend to become dirty and don't keep close when you move (and after some wash too). Another thing about the velcro is the awful sound it make when you open it.. imagine trying to "stay low" and you got to pee.... everyone will notice it around you! :p

I prefer a good old button & zipper, and actually some of my tactical pants even have two buttons next to each other to assure they will stay closed and as a backup if a button breaks.

As a big guy, i really love having a elastic waistband on the belt line for more comfort when moving (and sitting) but it should be an "addition" to the waist size instead of being the "maximum streched waist size" (EX.: pants are 42" waist, but can strech to 44") because having an elastic band streched on your waist all day long is not very good for your blood circulation and become uncomfortable very quickly...

For the shirt:

This is my first mandarin collar shirt so i need to get used to it a little...

I really like the design of the shirt, lots of pockets, nice reinforcement, good stichings, heavy duty zipper with cover material to keep it clean, velcro sleeve for adjustement, velcro patch square on the arms, seem very well designed so far!

For the sizing (again).....

I know, i'm a big guy.... i wear XL to 2XL clothes... Even if i can "fit" in the shirt, once closed, it's a little on the "too fit for me" side.... i'm not feeling fully comfortable in it and movements are restricted... i got some 2XL shirt and again, your 2XL is way too small when compared to these... 2XL guys tend to have some belly.... and you can't just keep the same design ratio for a S and make it a 2XL when you make things like shirts and vests. I'm not an expert for sure but i wanted to give my opinin on this...


Like i said, i got some people in my family that will fit in these clothes, so i'll get in touch with them and made them test it and will make some comments later on their toughts about them!

Pretty sure they will love them as long as they can fit inside! :p
 

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So i've found a tester who fited in the pants and even if the shirt is a little too big for my girlfriend, she like it because she can put some layers of clothes under it to stay warm!

She wore it today all day long to fully test it when moving and doing stuff around the house.

Sure it's not the most sexy wear around, but she like it and found it very comfortable and plan on keeping it for when she comes hunting with me and as a prepper's wife, i'm more than happy she finally got some decent prepper's clothes!

PS: She also agree that's not a XXL at al! She was a little upset whdn i told her it was supposed to be... With the kind of face who means: Do you think i'm that big?? :mad:

Here's some pictures of the fit:
 

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The pants:

Like i said earlier thos week, the fit isnt good... But the quality is nice and the material seem sturdy and resistant!

I took some pictures of various pants i got anf wear (mostly 5.11) to compare them!

Here are all my "casual-tactical" pants i got!
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Picture to conpare size with my 42" wsist size pant..

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I was not sure about the diagonal cargo pocket and after my girlfriend tried the pants, she's agree that "traditionnal cargo pockets" are more "natural"...

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The velcro closure was a problem for me, all of my pants got buttons and my favorite got 2 buttons! When moving, my girlfriend noticed the velcro tend to open, and she had to check it was well closed sometime after hearing thsmat awful velcro sound.
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I would love to have dome material reinforcement on the pocket edge so it eill protect the edge from wear when clipping a flaslight or pocket knife.
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I really love these front pockets too on my pants, they are nice to carry a knife, multitool, flashlight and even my cell phone fit in it! Quick access, even whrn you are in s sitting position!

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I talked to a guard that works with my company and he is a 32/32 roughly so going to give him the pants to try. Told him they are free but to have them I need feedback as how they are how to wear and such. I also gave him instructions on washing them inside out cold water and then turn them back right side and rinse hem to get rid of any soap film. Then turn them back inside out and dry them on low setting and they should not take that long to dry. Basically how I wash the condor Sentinels since roughly same material. I will be giving him the pants next shift I see him which i think is next Friday.
 
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The pants:

Like i said earlier thos week, the fit isnt good... But the quality is nice and the material seem sturdy and resistant!

I took some pictures of various pants i got anf wear (mostly 5.11) to compare them!

Here are all my "casual-tactical" pants i got!
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Picture to conpare size with my 42" wsist size pant..

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I was not sure about the diagonal cargo pocket and after my girlfriend tried the pants, she's agree that "traditionnal cargo pockets" are more "natural"...

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The velcro closure was a problem for me, all of my pants got buttons and my favorite got 2 buttons! When moving, my girlfriend noticed the velcro tend to open, and she had to check it was well closed sometime after hearing thsmat awful velcro sound.
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I would love to have dome material reinforcement on the pocket edge so it eill protect the edge from wear when clipping a flaslight or pocket knife.
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I really love these front pockets too on my pants, they are nice to carry a knife, multitool, flashlight and even my cell phone fit in it! Quick access, even whrn you are in s sitting position!

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I am same with condor sentinel with two buttons and like that support. How do the 5.11's hold up in the crotch area. I have heard reports of similar issues to like Condor where the material rubs and small holes appear or it rips at seems in the crotch area.

Also what did the XXL actually measure to for waist size?
 

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Also what did the XXL actually measure to for waist size?[/QUOTE]


Lay on flat: Between 31" and 32"....

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Maximum strech: Near 38"... No way i could strech them to 41", and with the pressure the maximum stretch would put on the velcro band, not sure they will be comfortable or they would stay closed...

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The pants I gave to an other guard. He going to try them out and get back to me on them but for now some feedback on the jacket.

As for the jacket worn it a couple times just when running around doing chores and such and it fits fine. Its on par when it comes to quality of material to something like the A1 tactical outfit I have. I like the big spacious pockets. I also like the style of pockets and placement. The front zipper is a nice addition since most have a button up front. Sewing on them seem fine. The shoulder movement and comfort is actually very good and in this case better then my A1's. The zippered shoulder pockets I like since they go in sideways to retrieve items. That is one thing I have disliked on some other brands that have the Velcro pockets where you enter at top on shoulder because small item can be a pain to retrieve so like that feature. That was good use of zippers as well since if that was a Velcro pocket items would possibly fall out.

There is something I am going to note and that is pricing. You might be hard pressed competition wise when it comes to pricing.

$59.99 for jacket and $69.99 for pants. Thats $129.98 usd for the whole outfit in a solid colour. My A1 tactical set was $80cdn for a solid colour of same quality and more features.

Now as mentioned didn't really get to try pants but I have compared the jacket and been testing it. I do like the jacket but when you compare to what is out there its pretty generic. Here is a list of things it could have and just for comparing my A1's all have these features.

1. loop/velcro name tape on both sides of chest above pockets
2. Pen holder on either arm sleeve which I have found is usually on left lower arm
3. While I like the zipper it can be a failure point and usually these jackets have buttons
4. On the right lower arm could have a small pocket
5. The shoulder loop panel needs to be bigger. Usually those panels are 5.5" - 6" in height with a 3.5 width. The 3.5 width is standard for patches. But the height on yours is 4" . This allows for two 3.5"x2" patches but that is not usually the norm on a military shirt/jacket. They usually allow for two patches plus an other row. Don't ask me why but they do. Might want to make that a bit taller/bigger on the height.

Washing was fine and washed in cold water and hung to dry and didn't use dryer and no issues. This material dries pretty quick.

Sizing for me as a medium and getting a medium was fine as well for the jacket

Anyways just some feedback. As you guys are aware the pants where really my focus but that is some feedback on the jacket.

Note: For the jacket you call it a Combat Dress Uniform. A uniform is misleading and usually your full outfit along with a combat uniform, field uniform, or battledress, is a type of uniform used in combat, as opposed to dress uniforms worn in functions and parades. . I would rename the item to just Combat Long Sleeve Shirt or something else.
 
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We changed the size chart and give the right measurement range of the pants
The inseam isn't listed on the chart and your chart still states that the large are a 37" waist when they are not.

Both of us had issues with the pants not being the proper size as labeled. That is the issue we are referring too.
 

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I see the new chart is up on the website.

It still didn't add inseam. I attached pic of what it should look. Now when it comes to that new chart and can only speak for the large size says it is 30"-37" which I don't agree with and measured. They stretch to 35". If they stretched to 37" they would fit me.

Now if going by that chart I would have to wear a XL and get the legs hemmed and that if they truly do stretch out to 38". Also starting to wonder if they do since Heimdall82 stated and shows measurements that his XXL are 38" when stretched. Just based off that it would mean I would have to wear an XXL.

This just goes to show that these pant sizing is not proper and whoever designed them need to work on their measurements or give you the proper measurements.

Finally the whole concept of the stretch is usually pants are measured pre stretch and the pants give that extra stretch as we go up and down in weight a bit. Also the stretch on tactical pants is there for concealed carry pistols inside the waist band.
 

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Now this is just me but if I owned a business and this happened as with these pants I would take down the listing, stop selling them, and I would return the bulk to the manufacturer and tell them to get it right. I would also show them a proper sizing chart for generic sizes. I would base it off the regular sizes so for example chart bellow you would look at the sr, mr, lr, and so on and so on. As for the inseam use the final column number for that since cant add materiel and can always hem.

So for a large it would be large regular 35"-39" waist with an inseam of 32.5".
 

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