OFFICIALLY LAUNCHED [SURVIVAL] Ultra light super shelter(tent)

Sandspoor

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I was looking at the concept and it's seem great! Here's my idea about improving it.... Sorry to be late for the party, Never noticed this post before! hahaha

About heating reflection: To lighten the setup (and the price) and since you dont always need a heat reflection system (it's become really hot during summer!) you could only put "clips" on the corners (and maybe one ine the middle edge) to add a "survival mylar sheet" IF needed only.

Venting: if you need better ventilation (and don't want to feel claustrophobic), you could make the "front flap" longer to allow fixing it with tent stakes between 6" and 12" further and allow venting (to prevent condensation). Really love the idea to use branches or walking stick to keep it open (and use the top flap for heating reflection or rain protection) or roll it up to enjoy a nice warm day (with elastic loop band) and also being able to "close the front" completely (with velcro or snaps) if the weather is really bad!
For the side vents, i would use a velcro closure cover (maybe with a rolling elastic loop if you want to keep it open), it will be lighter and will make less noise under high wind.

Personnaly, i would prefer a "ground level entrance" than a "higher edge" (or at least not that high... maybe 1" or 2" max edge) because if you want to sleep perpendicular (or two people) to the tent or just want to relax and enjoy some time outside or even sit in the tent with legs outside (to practice your bushcraft skills on a rainy day and you dont want to hava a lot of woods chips in the tent), it's would be uncomfortable and you could rip/tear this edge. And if you need to exit in the middle of the night, (to go pee or add a log in the campfire) i'm pretty sure you'll trip on this edge and hurt yourself (don't fall in the hot embers, it's hot...)

Like mentionned earlier, don't forget to put a loop for lantern or lightstick and since it will probably come with a nice ripstop storage bag (like the hammock), i would add a loop to clip that bag and transform it into a nice pocket to store little things like a flashlight, a phone and other little things. If i correctly understood, the mosquito net is zipped and the flap close with snaps?

Another idea would have been to make a "fixed mosquito net " (no opening) with an over flap that you could attach wide open (with walking stick of cords) , half closed with cords and tent stakes) or totatly closed (with snap or velcro closure) and make the entrance on one side. Actually it would be more like a typical "A" scout tent with opening flap system.

Nice concept! Keep up the good work! Can't wait to see the final product! :)

Like Heimball said about the reflective sheet: how about running a few lines or straps horisontal along the back side of the tent? On this you can attach lanterns etc, but you can then stuff and kind of reflective sheeting behind that. I’m thinking that an emergency/ thermo/ space/ blanket could do this trick perfectly...
(Those space blankets with the gold and silver sides and really cheap and any outdoorsy person should have one in his kit!)
 

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Like Heimball said about the reflective sheet: how about running a few lines or straps horisontal along the back side of the tent? On this you can attach lanterns etc, but you can then stuff and kind of reflective sheeting behind that. I’m thinking that an emergency/ thermo/ space/ blanket could do this trick perfectly...
(Those space blankets with the gold and silver sides and really cheap and any outdoorsy person should have one in his kit!)

Yup! These "space blanket" are what i was talking about! Really cheap to buy and also replacable if teared, and everyone have at least one of them in their backpack! And most important, you could add or remove it if needed only, because sleeping near a fire in summer can become very hot with these sheets... actually im using a similar system with "space blanket" (or aluminium foil) to make a small oven to cook bread and fish... so it's hot and it's works well!

Image i took from internet, not mine but i use a similar setup (except i also cover the side to prevent losing heat!
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Yup! These "space blanket" are what i was talking about! Really cheap to buy and also replacable if teared, and everyone have at least one of them in their backpack! And most important, you could add or remove it if needed only, because sleeping near a fire in summer can become very hot with these sheets... actually im using a similar system with "space blanket" (or aluminium foil) to make a small oven to cook bread and fish... so it's hot and it's works well!

Image i took from internet, not mine but i use a similar setup (except i also cover the side to prevent losing heat! View attachment 1000

Oh yummy! You should try potatoes and onion wrapped in foil in the coals...
 

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Oh yummy! You should try potatoes and onion wrapped in foil in the coals...
Potatoes, onion, green & red pepper, squash, cheese, bacon bits, pepper, lil butter... I cut all veggies julienne add everything together & prepack in individual foil packs. 1 pack per serving. Great to throw on grill, in coals whatever your cooking surface is. And they can serve as meal itself or side to meal. Next time we make them I'll try to remember to take pics.
 

Heimdall82

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Oh yummy! You should try potatoes and onion wrapped in foil in the coals...
Yeah i do that too for potatoes, but when im baking bread, fish or pizza, i prefer an "oven" to control the temperature. Sometimes, i boils my potatoes and "empty" the middle, then i fill them with a mixture of eggs, bacon (or sausage pieces) and onions, then you wrap it in foils and put it in the coals (you can also wrap your potato with bacon before wrapping it with foil! I call these "Complete Breakfast potatoes"! I usualy make a little more and let the extras "cool" before packing them, even cold, they are delicious! ;)
 

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Yeah i do that too for potatoes, but when im baking bread, fish or pizza, i prefer an "oven" to control the temperature. Sometimes, i boils my potatoes and "empty" the middle, then i fill them with a mixture of eggs, bacon (or sausage pieces) and onions, then you wrap it in foils and put it in the coals (you can also wrap your potato with bacon before wrapping it with foil! I call these "Complete Breakfast potatoes"! I usualy make a little more and let the extras "cool" before packing them, even cold, they are delicious! ;)
Wow, it interesting how similar people cook across the world!
We should start a cooking section. 😃
 
Like mentionned earlier, don't forget to put a loop for lantern or lightstick and since it will probably come with a nice ripstop storage bag (like the hammock), i would add a loop to clip that bag and transform it into a nice pocket to store little things like a flashlight, a phone and other little things. If i correctly understood, the mosquito net is zipped and the flap close with snaps?:)
The front flap secures with a zipper down each end, I suggested adding a snap at the bottom to help in zipping and help strengthen the flap, some great input thanks for adding to the conversation!
 

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survival mylar sheet
this is sth like the emergency banket we tested before?
http://1tg.onetigris.com/index.php?threads/onetigris-thermal-power-emergency-survival-blanket.60/
Venting: if you need better ventilation (and don't want to feel claustrophobic), you could make the "front flap" longer to allow fixing it with tent stakes between 6" and 12" further and allow venting
Do you mean to extend the bottom flap with 6" to 12" (cause the front flap mosquito net will also be changed when we do this) and make it have more space inside? If so, how does it work?
Another idea would have been to make a "fixed mosquito net " (no opening) with an over flap that you could attach wide open (with walking stick of cords) , half closed with cords and tent stakes) or totatly closed (with snap or velcro closure) and make the entrance on one side. Actually it would be more like a typical "A" scout tent with opening flap system.
can't image what it looks like but the mosquito net we use now is unable to open in the middle.

Maybe you can use the below pic to describe your idea?
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Yup! These "space blanket" are what i was talking about! Really cheap to buy and also replacable if teared, and everyone have at least one of them in their backpack! And most important, you could add or remove it if needed only, because sleeping near a fire in summer can become very hot with these sheets... actually im using a similar system with "space blanket" (or aluminium foil) to make a small oven to cook bread and fish... so it's hot and it's works well!

Image i took from internet, not mine but i use a similar setup (except i also cover the side to prevent losing heat! View attachment 1000
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have to say this is a good concept. Then, to make it detachable, which kind of design do you think can achieve this idea perfectly? I temporarily don't have any idea about this...:cry:
 
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Basically how will you guys set up this reflective sheet/flap? Is there any way which is very convenient to do this?
 

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have to say this is a good concept. Then, to make it detachable, which kind of design do you think can achieve this idea perfectly? I temporarily don't have any idea about this...:cry:
Try my post about some cord or straps horizontal along the back of the shelter.
Say you attach 4 light cords spaced evenly the sheet can just slide behind the cords and should be fine.
Alternatively you can include 4 elastic cords on the 4 corners to attach the ends of the sheet.
 

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Try my post about some cord or straps horizontal along the back of the shelter.
Say you attach 4 light cords spaced evenly the sheet can just slide behind the cords and should be fine.
Alternatively you can include 4 elastic cords on the 4 corners to attach the ends of the sheet.
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In this way? this could be a solution. Thank you!
 

Andy Z.

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Try my post about some cord or straps horizontal along the back of the shelter.
Say you attach 4 light cords spaced evenly the sheet can just slide behind the cords and should be fine.
Alternatively you can include 4 elastic cords on the 4 corners to attach the ends of the sheet.
We will do some research and see whether there has a better solution.
 

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In this way? this could be a solution. Thank you!

Yep! Running straps along the back (and even the front flap) would be a easy way to set the space blanket! (or the Onetigris rectangular orange survival tarp that Andy Z. posted). Or you could only fix small loops along the back stiching up (where you have put the cords on the drawing) and install paracord or bungee cord to fix the space blanket when needed. You can also use the straps (or cords) to clips molle pouch or carabiner for fixing lantern/lightstick. I'll make a sketch later today to illustrate what i mean with the front flap and also for the side opening concept.
 
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That's a good design for a super shelter, and would be great for dry camping if it's not too wet out. But where I live it's usually raining all year besides the summer.
 

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It's pity we cancel the refective layer inside for 2 reasons.
1. the reflective fabric we used for the first sample doesn't work well after testing and we didn't find any good materail to replace it;
2. this kind of fabric will increase the whole weight. remove this design will make it lighter;
But don't worry. you can still set up the reflect layer inside and outside, not that convenient as the first sample though.
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