OFFICIALLY LAUNCHED Slip on Molle sleeve for 2" duty belts and straps

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Ok had some spare time and this is what I came up with in the R&D department at WhispTech (my living room lol). I actually have sewn up a sample since I had spare materials from extra straps and some hook n loop patch backers so cut them all up and made one. I also found that the 0.5" strap across the whole panel is not needed whatsoever when testing this on a 1.5 " belt and a 2" belt. I have revised my original blueprints. Also please find attached all the measurements of the material and what material I used which I was advised you had in supply. Again all in black. :)
 

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Finally as mentioned don't need the 0.5" webbing strap across. After testing it wasn't needed and having that 0.5 Overhang of the webbing for the loop piece makes it so it can adjust to different size belts be it 1.5" , 1.75" or 2" belt. That extra overhang can be wrapped around belt out of way.

Example on 1.5" duty belt.
 

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So in summary:

1. Can attach any molle pouches and items that use up too 4 columns of molle straps to this
2. Due to the design of three columns of back straps can use belt loops to stop it from shifting when using on pant belt
3. Due to strap design can be adjusted for belts that are 1.5" too 2"
4. Due to strap design and having extra hook panel it can be used with a loop lined belt to stop shifting
5. Can be used on plate carriers, duty belts be it stand alone or with inner and outer belt with belt keepers along with backpacks and anything with a horizontal strap that has free space that is 1.5" too 2"
6. With the redesign added stability and structural integrity
7. 3 rows of pals webbing for adjustability of pouch orientation
8. Its awesome

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I have been playing with it a bit here and I will leave it up to you guys because probably would have more insight into it but that excess loop piece of 0.5" may not even be needed in fact. Just sew a 1.5" loop piece on end like how the 1.5" hook piece is. I will let you decide. If you do go ahead and make this new strap revision you can have it there and if you think not needed just cut off that 0.5" portion. Or just leave it up to the individual.
 

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Btw was checking the first prototype. The two straps that where on back like I showed in the demo would be the perfect thickness. Its is slimer and half the thickness of the webbing straps I used and would be perfect. That will help with the folding and keeping it more low profile. The thinner the webbing the better.
 
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Btw was checking the first prototype. The two straps that where on back like I showed in the demo would be the perfect thickness. Its is slimer and half the thickness of the webbing straps I used and would be perfect. That will help with the folding and keeping it more low profile. The thinner the webbing the better.
Those two straps may be 500D nylon so it's thinner. I need to confirm this point.

To the new idea you put forward. I think 4.5" for the straps is enough to acheive this function. see the pic attached. apart from the length, other design is same as yours.
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Those two straps may be 500D nylon so it's thinner. I need to confirm this point.

To the new idea you put forward. I think 4.5" for the straps is enough to acheive this function. see the pic attached. apart from the length, other design is same as yours.
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I took a piece of paper prior the design above and measured this all out with the 2 sizes and I personally don't like it. 0.5" is not enough support for the velcro when set to 2" and I can see a stability issue. That is why I made that extra little 0.5" (with 2" sections) loop overhang since I rather have a bit of overhang and some stability then to weaken the strap by reducing size. Please stay with my measurements of the strap above that I have made and drawn up.

Also note that 2" belts are the primary size for duty belts and straps used across the majority of the items it can be used on which I showed in my video. It was designed so that it supports them primarily with the ability to do 1.5" size belts.

As shown above I have an actual sewn up strap that I have tested and it works perfectly on the two sizes of belts and retains very well.

Question? Do you have any 1.5" nylon straps thinner then 500D?
 
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I took a piece of paper prior the design above and measured this all out with the 2 sizes and I personally don't like it. 0.5" is not enough support for the velcro when set to 2" and I can see a stability issue. That is why I made that extra little 0.5" (with 2" sections) loop overhang since I rather have a bit of overhang and some stability then to weaken the strap by reducing size. Please stay with my measurements of the strap above that I have made and drawn up.

Also note that 2" belts are the primary size for duty belts and straps used across the majority of the items it can be used on which I showed in my video. It was designed so that it supports them primarily with the ability to do 1.5" size belts.

As shown above I have an actual sewn up strap that I have tested and it works perfectly on the two sizes of belts and retains very well.

Question? Do you have any 1.5" nylon straps thinner then 500D?
I already confirmed with my colleague. and there is no 500D nylon strap. The thickness of all the straps we use for products is the same. that means to make it thinner is unavailable.

About the measurements, then we can go in this way. see the pic attached.
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I already confirmed with my colleague. and there is no 500D nylon strap. The thickness of all the straps we use for products is the same. that means to make it thinner is unavailable.

About the measurements, then we can go in this way. see the pic attached.
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Yes that looks good, Looks like you decided to go for the non overhang of 0.5 on bottom for the loop of 2" but that will still work.

I am confused though again. For the strap thickness what is going to be used? I have rin saying one thing and you an other. Is it 500D or not and the nylon webbing that was used on prototype 1?. All I know is that in comparison the black webbing used on prototype 1 is the size webbing I wish to be used.

Pic below of the webbing on prototype 1 that I wish to be used which is black and then the webbing I used which is green and you can see mine is thicker and still works so using the black webbing shown and that was used previously will work better.
 

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I am confused though again. For the strap thickness what is going to be used? I have rin saying one thing and you an other. Is it 500D or not and the nylon webbing that was used on prototype 1?. All I know is that in comparison the black webbing used on prototype 1 is the size webbing I wish to be used.

Pic below of the webbing on prototype 1 that I wish to be used which is black and then the webbing I used which is green and you can see mine is thicker and still works so using the black webbing shown and that was used previously will work better.
Okay then will be np. the thickness of the strap all are the same. it will be same as the one we use on the first sample. but the hook and loop will also add some thickness on it.
 
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K so Gen 5 V1 arrived. I like it. It is exact to what I want. Due to it having elastic on the back of this version it gives tolerance and moves out of the way for the 1" pant belt loops. Also having that plastic sheet inside adds firmness to it when the radio is in it and personally think that is an improvement.

However if we move forward and when you make Gen 6 V2 with the velcro straps you will have to be vigilant on the sizing tolerance of 1" between the back straps because those straps won't be as giving when working with 1" pant belt loops. You will have to really focus on quality control when doing that because that will make or break how this item works with belt loops.

So....

Front of panel is great, the inside sheet of plastic now is great and now we move forward to the velcro straps. I will note again it has to be 1" between each strap.
 

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Hi ya'll! New prototype has come out!
Just got it today! Check this!

Please forgive us our colleague modeled for this is a little bit slim haha
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And we asked him to attach some pouches and made some movements
It seems the panel could hold quite well on the belt!
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We used a 1.5'' cobra belt for the testing
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The details of the velcro part is as follow:
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looks good. You test it on a 2" belt? Can you do a pic of the measurements of back inbetween each strap? Want to make sure that is 1" exactly.

It looks to exactly how I drew it. Hope to test this soon.
 
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Received the 6th version gen 2 of molle panel and everything is fine except the spacing of the velcro straps on back. They have to be without question 1" spacing between them. Belt keepers are 1" which I have attached a picture and pants have belt loops of 1" as well picture attached. The design is for up to 1" so that has to be closely monitored when it comes to quality control. Other than that no other issues. The sample I got is under 1" spacing between the back velcro straps in which my design and the one drawn up from Andy shows its suppose to be 1". The reason being is belt keepers crimp up and bulge when trying to use them and the pants also crimp up at that spot. The item needs to lay flat. With the old version with elastic straps it had some give. With the nylon velcro straps not as giving.

Make sure about that and I think we are good to go.


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This is an example of the emt first aid setup. These three necessary starting items all fit on this panel. TQ, Gloves and shears along with in the glove pouch simple first aid items like face shield for cpr, bandaids, bit of gauze, alcohol swap and such. When I get the 1tg shear holders I will use that in my video I make so waiting on that item. In this pic using a generic one i dont like because the scissors flop around and shift because the strap doesn't hold in the handle properly while the 1tg one has velcro adjustability.
 

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