GEARTESTING IWB Nano Wallet for "High-Risk" Environments

Would you prefer a Nylon od a stretchy material?


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TheMedic08

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IWB Nano Wallet

-WHAT: Highlights & functions
A slim IWB sleeve-type pouch that fits your most essential credit cards and ID along with some backup cash.

-WHY: Specific use & purposes (important)
The purpose of this IWB wallet is to be able to carry your most valuable cards and some spare cash in bills in a safe manner in places where pickpockets make carrying a normal large wallet risky, such as while traveling in foreign countries, moving through crowded places or being in restaurants, bars or clubs. This also enables you to have your ID with you while working out or being active outside.
It is supposed to carry only your most essential valuables, while your spare change etc. is supposed to be in a regular wallet to serve as a possible decoy wallet that can be “sacrificed” to a pickpocket if necessary. Obviously, it could work also well as a stand-alone option without a larger wallet, as more and more payment options nowadays take the digital route such as Apple Pay, making it more of a credit card holder.

-HOW: How you were inspired (important)
While traveling across eastern Europe it was common for us to tuck our regular wallets between the waistband and the body to avoid theft and minimize risk, especially while being in restaurants or clubs. This was uncomfortable and the large wallets would slip and dig into the body. After DIY-ing a minimalist wallet I thought that having a dedicated “high safety” wallet in addition to the regular one was very beneficial. It could hold enough bills to get you home/to the hotel by taxi/Uber as well as your room card along with some ID and your driver's license.

-WHAT: Brief outline/description of appearance
A flat, low profile rectangular sleeve, sized about the same as a regular credit card (9 cm x 5,5 cm on the inside) with a piece of Velcro to attach it securely to the belt and prevent sagging and excessive movement. It is supposed to be worn inside the waistband similar to a concealed carry magazine pouch.
Being non-metallic it offers the capability to be taken through Airport Security and metal detectors without any problem.
I like the simple belt loop design used in the Snake Eater Tactical IWB Pouches with One-Wrap Velcro as presented in the picture below. Maybe there are better options out there though.

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( https://www.snakeeatertactical.com/product/iwb-magazine-pouch/ )

-WHAT: Proposed product name (important)
“IWB Nano Wallet” sounded appealing to me, however I am of course open to suggestions.

-WHAT: Color options
Coyote and lighter colors are well suited here, as they don’t show sweat and dirt as easily as classic black or darker tones, which is especially useful in hotter climates or while moving a lot.

-WHAT: Material
I am still on the fence about this one. I would either like to see a 500D Cordura Nylon as it is proven and tough as well as slim, or a Stretch material which is softer and probably more comfortable as it holds the items tighter and could be used to carry other narrow gear such as flashlights or similar in a pinch.
I would appreciate the opinion of the community members on what they would personally prefer to carry!

-Design draft:
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-Similar product(s) (optional)
The 1TG Rockpack Card Holder is a great baseline in terms of dimensions. The only products that I could find, that somewhat represented the intended IWB design were bulky Kydex wallets with screw-on belt clips and large metal hardware.

I would really appreciate your feedback to optimize this design in order to get it to its full potential.

Thank you for reading!
 

Mraz

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That velcro "one-wrap" thing is actually really simple and clever design. I'd opt for 500D material for one reason - I have few kydex wallets with elastic band that I made and although they're great they wear out the cards from constant pressure between them. My hunting licence lost last years mark and my health card is almost impossible to read. Since this wallet would would be IWB (constant pressure on it form belt etc.) and doesn't really need to have quick acces, maybe the design could be rockpackish (folding) with slits for individual cards? I assume one wouldn't carry a bunch of cards in it, just few essential ones.
 

TheMedic08

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@Mraz Thanks for the great comment. So you mean a foldover desingn similar to the rockpack would have a One-Wrap loop on its outside? That would certainly increase the security of the wallet contents which is really beneficial.
However I am a bit reluctant to go with multiple slits to decrease the overall thickness of the wallet. As you said it´s not really quick access anyways so I was assuming that "digging" through a bunch of cards stacked on each other would not be that much of an issue.
 

Mraz

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Digging is not a problem, my coment was aiming at the fact that when stacked together cards do get worn over time and you don't really need your credit card to stop working in a middle of Sofia :)

Then again, maybe we Croats get crappy cards and rest of the world doesn't have that problem.
 
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TheMedic08

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@Mraz Ah so you mean to add a few separate slits to protect the cards. I think this would work quite well. Have say three separate slits and that U-Shaped panel around the whole thing to keep it all together with the One-Wrap Loop attached to it´s outside. I think it should be still slim enough to be comfortably carried IWB. Greetings to Croatia!
 

Mraz

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Yup. Rockpack material seems to be thin enough and RFID blocking features are a great bonus, so maybe incorporate that in the design. Overall it's an interesting idea, one that could work even for EDC since you can hang the wallet OWB when wearing cargopocketless (I just made up that word) pants.
 

TheMedic08

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@Mraz Yeah the RFID Blocking capabilities make a lot of sense. Especially when thinking about the discussed "high-risk" areas. I´m not totally sure though how you´d want to put in on a belt. Do you mean between the belt and the pants or completely OWB?
 

Andy Z.

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-WHY: Specific use & purposes (important)
The purpose of this IWB wallet is to be able to carry your most valuable cards and some spare cash in bills in a safe manner in places where pickpockets make carrying a normal large wallet risky, such as while traveling in foreign countries, moving through crowded places or being in restaurants, bars or clubs. This also enables you to have your ID with you while working out or being active outside.
It is supposed to carry only your most essential valuables, while your spare change etc. is supposed to be in a regular wallet to serve as a possible decoy wallet that can be “sacrificed” to a pickpocket if necessary. Obviously, it could work also well as a stand-alone option without a larger wallet, as more and more payment options nowadays take the digital route such as Apple Pay, making it more of a credit card holder.
I like your idea and it's very practical. I know the situation cause my friends had the same exprience in Paris and his whole backpack was stolten.

-WHAT: Material
I am still on the fence about this one. I would either like to see a 500D Cordura Nylon as it is proven and tough as well as slim, or a Stretch material which is softer and probably more comfortable as it holds the items tighter and could be used to carry other narrow gear such as flashlights or similar in a pinch.
I would appreciate the opinion of the community members on what they would personally prefer to carry!
We can do both versions and you can test which one you think it's better. But I am not sure if the strech material we have can fit the size you asked.

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Does the velcre straps work like this way?
 

TheMedic08

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@Andy Z. thank you for your reply. I am very happy to hear that you like the idea. The pictures you sent are exactly how I imagined it. Just like the mag pouch, but with a wallet instead. Cordura would be fine as a material choice, maybe the design would have to be just a tad bit wider then to accomodate for the lack of stretch.
 
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TheMedic08

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NP. Is the size you provided the standard one? cause I see the Rockpack is 9.6×6.5cm
The sizing is what I got from measuring out my european drivers licence and a Visa credit card which is 5,5 x 8,5 cm. So that should be the size of the inside of the pouch with a bit of overhang on the sides for the seams.
 
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Mraz

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I think it's kind of like this. Just change the mag pouch into the wallet in case it's stolen.



Oh man, I see an Zebralight! Best headlamps on the market, I have one for the last 6 years and just thinking of another. The Glock 43 not so much, never liked how it felt shooting.
 

Andy Z.

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A sample was completed. Measurements are as below. It's 9*6cm for the pocket. I tested myself. The front fabric of the pocket is curved to increase the inside room. Also the height difference make you grab the card easily. It's easy to take out when you put in 1 card. But If you put 2 in it, you need to take them out together.
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Based on the needs you describe, what you need to carry are ID card, visa card/credit card, cash, key. How about redesigning the layout and make it easy for user to access to each of the items?
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TheMedic08

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A sample was completed. Measurements are as below. It's 9*6cm for the pocket. I tested myself. The front fabric of the pocket is curved to increase the inside room. Also the height difference make you grab the card easily. It's easy to take out when you put in 1 card. But If you put 2 in it, you need to take them out together.
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Based on the needs you describe, what you need to carry are ID card, visa card/credit card, cash, key. How about redesigning the layout and make it easy for user to access to each of the items?
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It looks amazing! I think adding another card slot might be a good Idea, however I´d not add tooo many otherwise it might get a bit uncomfortable when pressure is made on the body. But that might be a thing we would need to see in further field tests. So far: I am super impressed!
 
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Andy Z.

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So 2 slots only and romove the places for key and cash? cause these two things can be put with the cards as wel. :unsure: