GEARTESTING IFAK pouch

Andy Z.

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typed the wrong word. It's "unable" to attach it on 2 columns of MOLLE webbings.
 

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Just want to make sure that the previous 1TG items such as the TQ holders and Shear holders center on the side of the new IFAK prototype. These items https://www.onetigris.com/tourniquet-emt-shear-holder.html and https://www.onetigris.com/catalog/product/view/id/32 . Having two columns is fine. There is items such as a Nitrile glove holder that uses two columns. More concerned about the row positioning for your items I linked to be centered.
Temporarily we don't have these 2 gear here. I will test them in these 2 days.

Two or four of these in the right spot maybe? @Andy Z.
I think I misunderstood yesterday. I thought you were talking about how many columns on its back. :ROFLMAO:

Just by looking at that back sample make sure all the rows of PALS webbing are 1" apart. Just by looking at that pic you can tell the 3rd row space after the two rows of webbing is off. Even measured it on screen and its not 1".
Yeah it's less than 1" for these 2 space.

I was thinking those as well but after some thought think they would interfere with ease of use when trying to pull the unit off. Also when the pack is full of items it warps and isn't completely flat. I could see trying to do those snap buttons up again a pain. Personally I think the issue is being over thought. Its a rip away.
You mean the snap buckles are not sturdy here when pulling the pouch off?
 
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Temporarily we don't have these 2 gear here. I will test them in these 2 days.
Once you get those pieces of gear in test them on the sides and see how they sit on the sides. It may be fine but best to check that and if its off on them just figure out where webbing best placed for centering the external items or even may go down to two rows of webbing. I have found with your tq and shear pouches and other brands 2 rows is really necessary but if those 3 rows work with the items centered then leave it be.

Yeah it's less than 1" for these 2 space.
If they are less than an inch the weaving doesn't work properly and that needs to be fixed and made to proper PALS/Molle parameters.

You mean the snap buckles are not sturdy here when pulling the pouch off?
No, I am talking about when smaller rip away pouches such as this when filled with items doesn't maintain a perfectly flat back thus if there was snap buttons between it would be hard to do them up. I also feel that pulling the pouch off with those that that would be a weak point where it could start to rip and come apart over time and personally think its being over thought and is not needed it. It is a rip away pouch.
 

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If they are less than an inch the weaving doesn't work properly and that needs to be fixed and made to proper PALS/Molle parameters.
will fix this at next sample
No, I am talking about when smaller rip away pouches such as this when filled with items doesn't maintain a perfectly flat back thus if there was snap buttons between it would be hard to do them up. I also feel that pulling the pouch off with those that that would be a weak point where it could start to rip and come apart over time and personally think its being over thought and is not needed it. It is a rip away pouch.
Any suggestions for this?
 

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We tested 2 tool pouches you mentioned and all can fit it. We also changed it into 2 handles. The small one on the front and the large one on its back. When you need to open it, pull the small one and if you want to take the whole pouch down, pull the large one. What do you think about this?

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Also, do you guys think it's necessary to keep 2 D-rings we have now?
 

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We tested 2 tool pouches you mentioned and all can fit it. We also changed it into 2 handles. The small one on the front and the large one on its back. When you need to open it, pull the small one and if you want to take the whole pouch down, pull the large one. What do you think about this?

Also, do you guys think it's necessary to keep 2 D-rings we have now?
Just keep the d-ring on the back panel. Don't need one for the pouch since can now attach to back handle.
 

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Hey guys, how do you put your EMT Shear? I'm considering do we need to change the two straps on top to fix the EMT Shear. What do you think if we change it into the structure of pic 2?
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You have both the tq and shear holder or the all in one tq and shear holder that can be attached and could be an up sale. Also not everyone will use it for emt. That is why I said originally to have the PALS webbing on the sides so they can attach whatever they wish. Not everyone is using the same shears either.
 
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There is still two rolls of PALS, and the straps above would give it versatility to carry a few different things. If you carry a more fancy pair of shears I’d imagine you’d have a well made dedicated holster/TQ holster. I think the other side of the IFAK has 3 rows of webbing also, so I think everyone would be happy?
 
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Problem is not everyone has the all in one or already has maybe both.

I personally have all 3 plus other medical pouches for other types of items that could be mounted there.

And in fact the sides only need one column of pals webbing for most of the standard holders for the shears and TQ but the two rows I could see a glove pouch put on the side or if they have a fancier shears set such as the raptors in which they use two columns for their holder so I would leave it be since it gives more options and why I suggested it in my original drawings. I personally think the user should have the option of both side to put what he needs. They may put something other then shears or a TQ.

In the end its up to 1TG and these are just my thought on it after using many different ifak and medical pouches.

Next I want to point out that 1TG has these products.

all in one
https://www.onetigris.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=emt

Shear holder
https://www.onetigris.com/catalog/product/view/id/32

This is my final thing I want to point out and that is if you select a side to take up with a shear holder what if the user wanted the shears on the other side. They then going to skip the product because it doesn't conform to their need. I can actually state as a fact that I have moved my IFAK around my kit and the shear placement has changed on which side I placed them on my main IFAK due to where the kit was placed and being able to reach them.

In my mind which I stated before leave the option up to the user to what they attach and its an upsale.
 
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The IFAK is removable, so a fixed Shear holder makes more sense for me , especially if I’m only going to bring the pouch. Some people may choose this IFAK based on the fact it’s removable, and you don’t need to buy another pouch/holster, also more nylon is more weight , and real estate that is blocked by external TQ holder and shear holder. I wouldn’t place a dedicated TQ/Shear holster personally on an IFAK, but each user is different. I understand the point made for both.
 
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The IFAK is removable, so a fixed Shear holder makes more sense for me , especially if I’m only going to bring the pouch. Some people may choose this IFAK based on the fact it’s removable, and you don’t need to buy another pouch/holster, also more nylon is more weight , and real estate that is blocked by external TQ holder and shear holder. I wouldn’t place a dedicated TQ/Shear holster personally on an IFAK, but each user is different. I understand the point made for both.
make sense.
 

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Problem is not everyone has the all in one or already has maybe both.

I personally have all 3 plus other medical pouches for other types of items that could be mounted there.

And in fact the sides only need one column of pals webbing for most of the standard holders for the shears and TQ but the two rows I could see a glove pouch put on the side or if they have a fancier shears set such as the raptors in which they use two columns for their holder so I would leave it be since it gives more options and why I suggested it in my original drawings. I personally think the user should have the option of both side to put what he needs. They may put something other then shears or a TQ.

In the end its up to 1TG and these are just my thought on it after using many different ifak and medical pouches.

Next I want to point out that 1TG has these products.

all in one
https://www.onetigris.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=emt

Shear holder
https://www.onetigris.com/catalog/product/view/id/32

This is my final thing I want to point out and that is if you select a side to take up with a shear holder what if the user wanted the shears on the other side. They then going to skip the product because it doesn't conform to their need. I can actually state as a fact that I have moved my IFAK around my kit and the shear placement has changed on which side I placed them on my main IFAK due to where the kit was placed and being able to reach them.

In my mind which I stated before leave the option up to the user to what they attach and its an upsale.
make sense as well. :ROFLMAO:
 

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make sense as well. :ROFLMAO:

Also point out not everyone will use that pouch as an IFAK. This style of pouch can be an organizer for many things such as a fire starter kit, edc kit and so on and so on. When you dedicate a product to one use only you also limit the individuals who may purchase it. When I do reviews I always try and find other uses for it other then what its primary use is.
 

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Also point out not everyone will use that pouch as an IFAK. This style of pouch can be an organizer for many things such as a fire starter kit, edc kit and so on and so on. When you dedicate a product to one use only you also limit the individuals who may purchase it. When I do reviews I always try and find other uses for it other then what its primary use is.
yeah. as you said, this will give more space for users to customize. They can decide how to use it by their own.