GEARTESTING [DOG GEAR] Service Dog Mobility Assistance Harness

BigT

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  • What- Service Dog Mobility Assistance Harness
  • Color options- Ranger Green, Black, Grey, Coyote Brown
  • Sizes- Extra Large & Large
  • Highlights and functions- Start with OneTigris Tactical Molle Harness for Service Dogs & Trainings (SKU: TG-GBX03). Durable Material & Soft Padded: Made with our high quality 1000D nylon and well padded in all pressure areas for a comfortable fit. Easy Adjustable Dog Harness: 4 quick release buckles for easy put on and off while providing extra security; With one top handle for your dog’s lead & control and one V-ring on the front for dog leash attachment. MOLLE System: Each side features two MOLLE straps as well as hoop & loop strips panel to easily attach molle pouches or ID panels. Hook & Loop Panels for Attach Morale Patch: One full length strip of 9"long 2" wide heavy duty loop panel on the top for ID badges; One 3.5"long 2" wide loop panel on the neck strap. Proposed Changes: Add another handle exactly the same as the one by the dog's head to the back of the vest by the dog's tail. Add another V-ring on the rear again exactly like the front for dog leash &/or wheelchair lead attachment. Add stiff back plate for added stability when using formed handle. Ensure dog has enough padding on chest and back. The Key Addition: Formed, stand-up, stiff, grip handle. Handle positioned so easy to grab onto dog for balance when standing/walking &/or propulsion when in wheelchair. This handle needs to be positioned just about center of vest footprint or just behind dog's front legs/shoulders. Samples: I'd like to have one sample made with the "Stand-up" handle running head to tail and one same with the "Stand-up" handle running side to side to determine which works best.
  • Specific use & purpose- The addition of the standard handles gives grabbing points which a disabled person can use to have their Service Dog help them up from a sitting position and also from the ground if they were to fall. They also give additional hold points to be able to grab your dog safely in the event of an emergency like needing to get them out of the water quickly. The addition of the the V-ring allows a disabled person the flexibility to attach a lead and leash while walking and in wheelchair. The primary use of this harness will be as a tool for your service dog to further be able to help you with mobility assistance when standing, walking and/or to provide propulsion when in a wheelchair.
  • How were you inspired-
    1. I started to get this inspiration as I went through team training to get my Service Dog, Lennon. You are exposed to a lot of different tools and pieces of equipment that can help to make your life easier and give you more independence. The mobility assistance harnesses basically fall into two categories cheap and outrageously expensive. And neither of these categories provides a quality solution to be used by most individuals needing mobility assistance. The high end are leather and metal, made to fit, so if you are shorter than me it would not work or if your lead is on the other hand it would not necessarily work. The cheap ones are just ripping disabled people off. There is no reason it needs to be this difficult. There is a very large market of disabled individuals and a large majority need some form of mobility assistance whether they suffer from any other disabilities or not. My vision does not have you standing out like a sore thumb when you enter a room because you have this large contraption strapped to your dog like a saddle that sticks straight up in the air. The goal is to be more normal, to be treated more normal, to be seen more normal.
    2. I've been looking for a mobility assistance vest/harness for some time. The one that I had kind of settled on was not being made anymore. As I was looking I came across the OneTigris Tac Molle Harness and I saw the perfect base or beginning. I'm hoping this is something 1TG is interested in as I do not see it being a super difficult project as we are not designing from scratch. If this works and the Ranger Green is close enough to my organizations green vest I can already tell you there would be a lot of interested individuals especially if the price point was reasonable. Lennon is trained to assist me with my mobility, but it would be very nice to have his skills along with something to grab onto when needed. And trust me, its needed and not just after a night out with Sandspoor!
  • Attached Pictures- There are tons of examples out there of mobility assistance dog harnesses, so I just picked some with different stand-up handle positioning and different handle materials. I really feel like the hard part has already been worked out with your 1TG Tac Molle Harness.
If 1TG were to move forward I'd like the 2 designs made up with the "Stand-up" handle in different positions. I'd test walking and in wheelchair both versions and give my feedback. I'd also like at least 1 if not 2 other disabled individuals with mobility issues and service dogs from a service dog organization. I'm not going to get into the politics or my beliefs of fake service dogs and such but I'd like the testing to be legit for disabled people's and for 1TG's long-term interests. Just my thoughts as always.

I'm really passionate about this and would be willing to do just about anything you (1TG) want to move forward on this! Please let me know if there is anything else I can do, any questions I can help to answer, and/or any additional information I can provide. Thank you in advance for your time and consideration. BigT & Lennon
 

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Andy Z.

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Proposed Changes: Add another handle exactly the same as the one by the dog's head to the back of the vest by the dog's tail. Add another V-ring on the rear again exactly like the front for dog leash &/or wheelchair lead attachment. Add stiff back plate for added stability when using formed handle. Ensure dog has enough padding on chest and back. The Key Addition: Formed, stand-up, stiff, grip handle. Handle positioned so easy to grab onto dog for balance when standing/walking &/or propulsion when in wheelchair. This handle needs to be positioned just about center of vest footprint or just behind dog's front legs/shoulders. Samples: I'd like to have one sample made with the "Stand-up" handle running head to tail and one same with the "Stand-up" handle running side to side to determine which works best.
1. Add another handle (same design as the front) and V-ring at the rear/back of the dog harness (Clear)
2. Add stiff back plate for added stability when using formed handle (Confused. to add inside or outside, back or chest?).
 
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Andy Z.

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The Key Addition: Formed, stand-up, stiff, grip handle. Handle positioned so easy to grab onto dog for balance when standing/walking &/or propulsion when in wheelchair. This handle needs to be positioned just about center of vest footprint or just behind dog's front legs/shoulders. Samples: I'd like to have one sample made with the "Stand-up" handle running head to tail and one same with the "Stand-up" handle running side to side to determine which works best.
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Do you mean to put the handles in these ways? and which one is better depends on its performance. is it right?
 
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Andy Z.

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Specific use & purpose- The addition of the standard handles gives grabbing points which a disabled person can use to have their Service Dog help them up from a sitting position and also from the ground if they were to fall. They also give additional hold points to be able to grab your dog safely in the event of an emergency like needing to get them out of the water quickly. The addition of the the V-ring allows a disabled person the flexibility to attach a lead and leash while walking and in wheelchair. The primary use of this harness will be as a tool for your service dog to further be able to help you with mobility assistance when standing, walking and/or to provide propulsion when in a wheelchair.
nice points. this is a meaningful idea. I will check with my colleague and see what we can do on this idea.
 
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Do you mean to put the handles in these ways? and which one is better depends on its performance. is it right?
I get the idea for a stiff base of the harnass, but what about just adding two polypropylene rods of say 1” on both sides inside the harnass to support the handles? My thinking is this will be more comfortable for the dog as his body moves in the harnass. The polypropp will allow flex of the body...
 

BigT

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1. Add another handle (same design as the front) and V-ring at the rear/back of the dog harness (Clear)
2. Add stiff back plate for added stability when using formed handle (Confused. to add inside or outside, back or chest?).
The back plate is to give the "stand-up" formed mobility handle a base. So that the handle itself is more stable for user & to disperse weight/make more comfortable for dog because formed handle at times could have some weight.

Does that explain better?
 

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Do you mean to put the handles in these ways? and which one is better depends on its performance. is it right?
1st picture is perfect that is exactly how it should look with the two standard handles, 2 v-rings. Now the formed handle goes directly in middle of vest. 1 sample with formed handle handle vertical & 1 sample with formed handle horizontal.

Is that clearer? I'm headed to Doc appt, go figure when I get back I can explain in more detail or even send more pics.

Each pic I sent has a formed handle on a harness. Basically take your drawing & then add 1 formed, stand-up handle.
 

BigT

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I have a vested interest in this so please just tell me how I can help. If I need to explain differently please tell me how would be best. When I get back to mission control I can look to see if any of the manufacturers have fact sheets or spec sheets for these specific harnesses that my explain better than I have. Just let me know what would be of assistance. Thank you.
 

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Do you mean to put the handles in these ways? and which one is better depends on its performance. is it right?
Andy - The 1st picture is what the base harness/vest would look like. The 2nd picture is of the base harness along with some of the stand-up, firm handle options in the two orientations head to tail and side to side. I cut and pasted your drawing next to the stand-up handles so you would be able to tell which were which. Any of these stand-up, firm handles would then be fixed to the harness/vest along the harness spine in the middle of the harness. I tried to put pics in place and it just didn't work and unfortunately with all the gifts god gave me drawing was not one of them, so I really am trying man. Please let me know how I can further explain.
 

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1. Add another handle (same design as the front) and V-ring at the rear/back of the dog harness (Clear)
2. Add stiff back plate for added stability when using formed handle (Confused. to add inside or outside, back or chest?).
Stiff back plate would be something like I've seen being discussed in other projects. A material like a piece of plastic or whatever you guys come up with to help add stability to the firm, formed, stand-up handle. This is not an issue with the 2 standard handles because they are made out of nylon to not get in the way when not needed or to be flexible/move-able.

The firm, stand-up handle in the middle of the vest is an anchor point, weight bearing point, so it needs to not only always be in form of handle to be readily accessible to individual when reaching for it, but also needs to be stable so if the individual is using to stabilize themselves the handle does not roll/shift possibly sending the person holding to the ground. It also needs to be stable when using in wheelchair or it will be very difficult to control or utilize. It's not that complicated or difficult given some of the individuals making them.

I'm not sure what the best solution is for stability. Sandpoor might be on the right track with his idea. Just remember we are not trying to reinforce to give the dog the ability to carry more equipment, we are just trying to create more of a stable platform. And I know from using them it's not going to be rock solid, but it needs to be better than loosey goosey.

From the other models I've used the stability piece is between the material on what would end up being the dog's back.

The formed handle goes down the spine of the dog dead center of harness/vest in between the paracord and standard nylon handles head and rear.

Looking down on dog from top you would see: Dog's head - Standard Nylon Handle & V-Ring - Paracord - Formed Handle - Paracord - V-Ring & Standard Nylon Handle - Dog's Tail.

Andy - Please let me know if there are any questions, info, material, pics, anything additional needed!!! Thank you, Tony
 
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