Customized Dragon Snail Pouch

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Well now that the outside is fixed hopefully they fix the internals like the map pouch and inner material used as I suggested as well in my video when I reviewed it.
Just ask our designer, the liner still uses 420D for this targert market of this pouch, and the test also shows that adding one more liner to the zipper pocket's back where it stitches with strap could hold enough strength. Here are some comparison between the new and the old version:

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Here's the internal of the new version

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It may be good idea to send @WhispTech a new version. Good practice for any changes that are made based on community suggestion/support.
Nah its all good.

It still has issues that need to be resolved in which by Rin's post above doesn't look like they want to do so I would pass because they solved one issue of 3 that I brought fourth.

1. Even though it was a great job on using multicam on the extra material spots using a black zipper when black is not a predominant colour in multicam clashes and they need to go back to the original coloured zipper or a multicam zipper.

2. If the materials inside are the same then it would not meet my criteria of sturdiness. As stated before I have had bags with same liner and it shreds and falls apart and there is better quality material they could use.

3. That map pouch needs to be fixed. As shown in Rin's post its the exact same size as before. People that use map pouches want them to be sealed even if just with Velcro. I stated the straps at opening need to be moved up and Velcro added along with make the map pouch a bit wider so that now that it can be sealed can reach in and pull out map. Even if they did not make wider and just moved that strap up to match the other one and add Velcro in between would go a long way in making that map pouch better and the standard sized map would fit properly. If anything its for documents and again even then should have the ability to be sealed. Attached pics.

Finally this pouch just can't compete when it comes to the map pouch I personally carry. 3rd picture.
 

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1. Even though it was a great job on using multicam on the extra material spots using a black zipper when black is not a predominant colour in multicam clashes and they need to go back to the original coloured zipper or a multicam zipper.
The black zipper is the YKK water repellent zipper which in many of our product prove to be good quality, many of our customers love the function of this zipper. And more importantly, for a admin pouch when putting important document in, water repellent zipper can help protecting them. And so far this water repellent zipper havent had multicam version on it. Therefore our designer @Sucre want to keep this important function by remaining the water repellent zipper on.

2. If the materials inside are the same then it would not meet my criteria of sturdiness. As stated before I have had bags with same liner and it shreds and falls apart and there is better quality material they could use.
In fact we all agree that the 420D liner could be changed into a better quality one and there does have sturdier material in the market, but considering the target market of this pouch is reasonable price with good quality, changing another fabric could further leveler up the price of it...But if we r going to launch a ultimate version of the admin pouch, this suggestion will definitely be accepted!

3. That map pouch needs to be fixed. As shown in Rin's post its the exact same size as before. People that use map pouches want them to be sealed even if just with Velcro. I stated the straps at opening need to be moved up and Velcro added along with make the map pouch a bit wider so that now that it can be sealed can reach in and pull out map. Even if they did not make wider and just moved that strap up to match the other one and add Velcro in between would go a long way in making that map pouch better and the standard sized map would fit properly. If anything its for documents and again even then should have the ability to be sealed. Attached pics.
About the map pouch, the designer agreed that it should be improved especially for the top strap. The factory missed this so in this prototype, map window hasnt been changed...Will update it as soon as possible.
 
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The black zipper is the YKK water repellent zipper which in many of our product prove to be good quality, many of our customers love the function of this zipper. And more importantly, for a admin pouch when putting important document in, water repellent zipper can help protecting them. And so far this water repellent zipper havent had multicam version on it. Therefore our designer @Sucre want to keep this important function by remaining the water repellent zipper on.


In fact we all agree that the 420D liner could be changed into a better quality one and there does have sturdier material in the market, but considering the target market of this pouch is reasonable price with good quality, changing another fabric could further leveler up the price of it...But if we r going to launch a ultimate version of the admin pouch, this suggestion will definitely be accepted!


About the map pouch, the designer agreed that it should be improved especially for the top strap. The factory missed this so in this prototype, map window hasnt been changed...Will update it as soon as possible.

Well I know you have ykk zippers in other colours. It just should not be black. The original zipper on the dragon snail that was used on it would look better. The black just contrasts to much and looks out of place.
 

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Well I know you have ykk zippers in other colours. It just should not be black. The original zipper on the dragon snail that was used on it would look better. The black just contrasts to much and looks out of place.
:DYes, YKK has different color option like black and tan but not for the water-repellent one. So far it only has black water-repellent YKK zipper. Wish YKK can update the color option of this one! Haha! Because like I mentioned many of our customers love this kind of water-repellent zipper, most product with that sells pretty well! Let's see how it works for this pouch/:joyful
 
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:DYes, YKK has different color option like black and tan but not for the water-repellent one. So far it only has black water-repellent YKK zipper. Wish YKK can update the color option of this one! Haha! Because like I mentioned many of our customers love this kind of water-repellent zipper, most product with that sells pretty well! Let's see how it works for this pouch/:joyful
What is the series name for that ykk zipper? You are using Vislon zippers right? Which series?
 

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Yeah what I figured since ykk only has Vislon AquaGuard and AquaSeal.

I am assuming you are using matte and not sure what size you are using but guessing #10 but regardless eventually they will make other colours you guys can use. They say on their website have other colours but all I could find was bright colours on the main site. On the U.S. site they are already doing new colours that would work but the are not two way zipper pull plus may not be right size plus all shiny mostly. But eventually it will come since they are already starting to make some of it in Tan, Coyote and Foilage Green. Eventually though!

http://ykknorthamerica.com/product/aquaguard-vislon-usa/
 
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Yeah what I figured since ykk only has Vislon AquaGuard and AquaSeal.

I am assuming you are using matte and not sure what size you are using but guessing #10 but regardless eventually they will make other colours you guys can use. They say on their website have other colours but all I could find was bright colours on the main site. On the U.S. site they are already doing new colours that would work but not sure if if you are using shinny or matte and what size plus also the issue of two way zipper pull. But eventually it will come since they are already starting to make some of it in Tan, Coyote and Foilage Green. Eventually though!

http://ykknorthamerica.com/product/aquaguard-vislon-usa/
We are using the Matte one Corporal. So far the most adaptable one is the black color, other choices they offered to us is too bright and not fit for our products. Of course we are looking forward to YKK having more tactical colors too an hopefully one day we could apply it cuz that will be super cool and badass for a brand like us!
 

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We are using the Matte one Corporal. So far the most adaptable one is the black color, other choices they offered to us is too bright and not fit for our products. Of course we are looking forward to YKK having more tactical colors too an hopefully one day we could apply it cuz that will be super cool and badass for a brand like us!

Yep I get it. Eventually though since they are working on colours on some of their aquaguard series that would work. Just a matter of time till they have what you guys need.

http://ykknorthamerica.com/product/aquaguard-vislon-usa/
 
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