OFFICIALLY LAUNCHED CO2 Pouch for 12 gram cartridges

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This was an idea that I brought up awhile back but think forgotten in all the hustle of the site.

I have searched high and low for even a shotgun shell holder of this design but usually because for shells hold 12, or even 1tg 7 and all different designs but not really meant for co2 however can be used.

As an airsofter we sometimes have to carry co2 be it for my rifle or for my pistol. However I don't need to carry 12 co2 and even 6/7 is unnecessary so designed this low profile pouch to be worn either on belt or plate carrier that holds 4 co2 cartriges which is plenty. For my rifle thats roughly 120 shots per each canister or 3-4 pistol mags worth at roughly 25 shots per mag so 100 shots. That is why we don't need so many. 3-4 to carry as backup for refill is plenty.

Pretty simplistic pouch. Box pouch with a velcro flap. Inside have elastic material for the loops to hold the co2 in place and so that they dont hit each other and make noise.

Can be also used as a 4 shotgun shell holder but primarily for co2 and airsofters.

Below is drawing of it. Can also have some loop field on front of flap for patches. Also note when making back straps for the molle have the strap come down with one side of the snap and have the other end come up so that you can use the third row of molle. The black section is the elastic material inside consisting of loops to hold each co2. You should know what I mean since you did it on the shell holder 136.
 

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This was an idea that I brought up awhile back but think forgotten in all the hustle of the site.

I have searched high and low for even a shotgun shell holder of this design but usually because for shells hold 12, or even 1tg 7 and all different designs but not really meant for co2 however can be used.

As an airsofter we sometimes have to carry co2 be it for my rifle or for my pistol. However I don't need to carry 12 co2 and even 6/7 is unnecessary so designed this low profile pouch to be worn either on belt or plate carrier that holds 4 co2 cartriges which is plenty. For my rifle thats roughly 120 shots per each canister or 3-4 pistol mags worth at roughly 25 shots per mag so 100 shots. That is why we don't need so many. 3-4 to carry as backup for refill is plenty.

Pretty simplistic pouch. Box pouch with a velcro flap. Inside have elastic material for the loops to hold the co2 in place and so that they dont hit each other and make noise.

Can be also used as a 4 shotgun shell holder but primarily for co2 and airsofters.

Below is drawing of it. Can also have some loop field on front of flap for patches. Also note when making back straps for the molle have the strap come down with one side of the snap and have the other end come up so that you can use the third row of molle. The black section is the elastic material inside consisting of loops to hold each co2. You should know what I mean since you did it on the shell holder 136.
Sorry for late reply Sir, cuz these days are little busy and this pouch was delayed for a while. Dont worry, we will do a prototype first like usual and send you any new progress of it.
 
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For the back part, is there only one line of molle webbing?
 

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I found a problem is that when you attach this to the MOLLE. it can't be snapped. see the pic below
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CO2 do you mean the air for the airsoft rifle?

Rifle or airsoft pistols. They take 12g cartridges for airsoft. Most people have pistols but I have also a wolverine airsoft wraith system on my custom rifle I built which also takes these cartridges. My pistol below as well.
 

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I found a problem is that when you attach this to the MOLLE. it can't be snapped. see the pic below
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Look at the middle part of my drawing. It deals with this problem you mentioned so that it is not a problem. See how the bottom part comes up to the other strap. This is done on smaller pouches usually or they use mod straps which are folded at the bottom. Could just use 3 " mod straps if need be.
 

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So for starters which I did not want to use but will show what I am talking about with the fold over at the snaps is a mod strap in which you could just have the molle on the pouch and use a 3" one of these. You would need to have 3 rows of molle then. But look at how it snaps together and the fold over at the snaps. So have the strap come down which is stitched at top. And then at bottom have a tab with a snap to attach it all together. I showed that in the drawing. It is not an issue or problem.
 

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Here is a crude drawing of what I mean and how you would design it for a strap and one row of molle. Also note the pouch is 3.25" in height. That gives extra .25 inch for sewing space. Sew the top strap at top and sew the bottom tab strap at bottom. Center the 1 row of molle. Also here is a pic of what the weave in theory would look like if design like crude drawing. Used the back of an other pouch that uses mod strap to show how either would work in concept but remember the straps are affixed to the pouch itself and not loose. Just an example of the weave.
 

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Also, the loops internally with the elastic material which you guys should be familiar with is like your shotgun holder but internally in the pouch and the loops can be the same size as a shotgun shell.

Also the flap come over the co2 cartridges and the pouch at front is shorter then the back so you can get a hold of the cartridges. Hopefully that part shows thru on the drawing. Green is the material, black is the elastic internal material.
 

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For the back part, is there only one line of molle webbing?
Yes it only needs one. Note it is a 3.25" tall pouch. You can only support 3x 1" row of molle. So thus you put one on item and that way you can use two rows on the item you are attaching it to and have more support instead of it only affixing to one row on the vest and such and flopping around. I shown above how it can be designed that way.
 

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Here is a crude drawing of what I mean and how you would design it for a strap and one row of molle. Also note the pouch is 3.25" in height. That gives extra .25 inch for sewing space. Sew the top strap at top and sew the bottom tab strap at bottom. Center the 1 row of molle. Also here is a pic of what the weave in theory would look like if design like crude drawing. Used the back of an other pouch that uses mod strap to show how either would work in concept but remember the straps are affixed to the pouch itself and not loose. Just an example of the weave.
I see, so the back strap is like the first picture, the "bottom part" of the button
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like the above one is on a extended strap which will be connected with the bottom of the pouch, right?
 
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I see, so the back strap is like the first picture, the "bottom part" of the button
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like the above one is on a extended strap which will be connected with the bottom of the pouch, right?
Yes. Please look at attached pictures I have edited them with more info. It shows exactly how it is done and its not a new way. There is pouches on the market that use this style when it comes to 3 row items. The bottom section/strap has the female portion of the snap button and the top strap has the male portion of the snap button. Same way a mod strap works just that this has the two portions affixed to the pouch itself. I have no idea how I can explain it any further.
 

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When sewing it together just do the top strap as you would any other pouch you make. Due to we need three inches exactly for the 3 rows of molle since each row of molle is 1" (one on the item itself and 2 on the item you are attaching it too) and that the pouch is 3.25" in height that gives .25 inch of space to sew in the bottom strap at the bottom as shown in above pic. It has to be pretty much as close as possible when sewing it together. If its to complicated or you think it can't be done then just go with the 3 rows of molle on the back of it in which it would add an extra row added above and below the strap already in my diagram and make 3 inch mod straps. I personally did not want to do that since its adds weight and bulk and also makes items push out further and I wanted this item as tight to whatever item it is attached to as possible.
 
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Also if we made the pouch 3.5" in height which really is just a .25 of an inch taller and nothing a snap button is .5 inches you could use a regular strap and just have your regular way of snapping it together at the bottom. I still prefer my originally idea since it keeps everything to size.
 

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So there you have three options at hand for the design of the back.

1. Way I drawn it up
2. have three rows molle on back with a separate mod strap
3. Heighten the pouch by .25 and have regular strap with snap button at bottom


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