PROTOTYPING Bush Barrel/Citizen Duffle

Dean Cattell

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The general idea is to have a small compact duffle that can be carried over the shoulder either horizontally or vertically. Could be used for day hikes, Bushcraft, EDC, or urban carry for lunch etc.
With the recent interest in “grey man” or “prepares citizen” gear, the outside of the duffle would look like an ordinary small duffle bag. Inside the bag will have a main pocket to carry a water bottle, thermos, cook kit etc. Around this main pocket would have several pockets for various other items. Suggested dimensions would be 12 inches in height and 10 inches in diameter. The lid of the duffle would have a zipper opening and would be two inches deep. Four D rings would be mounted on the outside of the bag to allow horizontal or vertical carry and allow attachment to other gear if needed.
The inside of the bag would have a main pocket six inches in diameter. Around this main pocket would be several other pockets that would be two inches. Both the main and the other pockets would be 10 inches long.
I’m not sure how easy it would be to make the interior so I think there are two options. First would be to make as suggested with everything sewn together. Second option would be to have the main bag made as suggested and then the interior could be made as an insert attached with Velcro at the bottom of the bag and the top. This may be easier to produce and offers the opportunity to go with different inserts, maybe concealed carry?
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The top lid could have elastic straps on the outside for smaller items and maybe a key ring attachment. Access to the top lid would be through another zipper and the interior of the top lid would have either Molle, elastic or a combination of both.
I would suggest using high quality Cordura for the main part of the duffle, interior may not need to be same weight but strong enough for organization.
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The strap could be plain on one side and Molle on the other.
Let me know your thoughts and if there are any questions!
 

Andy Z.

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Thank you for your effort! Nice sketch. It's a good idea. Below are some questions I have when you read it.
Access to the top lid would be through another zipper
So it's 2 zippers on the top lid. I am confused about the 3rd sketch. What does "zipper between A, B longest" mean?

the interior of the top lid would have either Molle, elastic or a combination of both.
What is this MOLLE webbing for?

be used for day hikes, Bushcraft, EDC, or urban carry for lunch etc
What are the main things carried in this duffle bag? Mobile phone, fold-able sew, Power-bank, EDC tools...
 

Dean Cattell

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The distance between A-B (longest) is the zipper. Shortest would be the material and/or hinge for the lid.
The Molle could actually be elastic loops for pens or other small items.
Depending on the activity, there would be numerous things that could be carried. Day hikes: cookset, water bottle, knife, saw, etc. Daily EDC water bottle, thermos, phone etc.
 

Andy Z.

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Okay, cool, I totally understand the idea. I think it's not difficult to make a sample for this (Nylon fabric). Before that, one more question: what do you think is the outstanding point of this duffle bag comparing to others on the market? :unsure:
 

Dean Cattell

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Okay, cool, I totally understand the idea. I think it's not difficult to make a sample for this (Nylon fabric). Before that, one more question: what do you think is the outstanding point of this duffle bag comparing to others on the market? :unsure:
I think it will provide great organization and fairly quick access to whatever gear the user decides to carry, without that perceived “tactical” look. Plus the option of carrying it on its own or attached to a bigger pack increases its versatility. Material choice would have to be heavy enough to support the weight of the gear carried inside.
 

Andy Z.

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Please confirm the sketch below.
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It seems the design of the dividers inside is not reasonable.
 
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Andy Z.

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If it is unreasonable to make in one piece, could you make the outer (main duffle) and then the inner as an insert that attaches with Velcro around the top (inside)? Then if there are different ideas for insert designs you would just switch out the insert.
I think this could work technically
 
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Andy Z.

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We met a problem in prototype. The inner dividers can't be done based on the sketch. We need to change it. How about in this way?
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My colleague said the original one is good but it can't be realized manually. He think it should be plastic. Then let's try the A.
 
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Andy Z.

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Hey Dean. I confirmed again and sorry to tell you even the solution A we talked above can't be realized. I think we need to redesign this gear. Very sorry about it. :cry:
 

Dean Cattell

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Hey Dean. I confirmed again and sorry to tell you even the solution A we talked above can't be realized. I think we need to redesign this gear. Very sorry about it. :cry:
I’ll do some thinking. Would it work if the interior dividers were a separate unit (maybe out of tarp like material) that attached to the Cordura outer duffle with Velcro at the bottom and top?
 
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