PROTOTYPING 2in1 dog climbing harness?

Mraz

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Hi. My standard schnauzer and I love mountains and sometimes get in situations where he needs help climbing or geting down rocks. Dedicated climbing harnesses are usually uncomfirtable, restrict movement and hot in summer, not to mention he hates it. I mean really really hates it. So I'm thinking of a two part harness; main part should be something like 1TH "fire watcher" harnes, light and not restrictig with second part that connects via buckles and gives support to belly back legs while lifting/lowering the dog.

My drawing skills are not something but I'll try to make a sketch of it.
 

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So I did some sewing and jerry-rigged this contraption. It needs some refinement, webbing should be narrower but with padding and the "waist strap" needs to be firm. I ran out of webbing so I used elastic. It works. Doesnt look to shabby, does it? :)

It would probably be better if the attachment had strap(s) to go around his legs to put pressure on his pelvis rather than stomack but I was out of time, webbing and ideas.

He still hates it but he'd get used to it.
 

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It's quite aweomse you modified the harness yourself and it looks work well. I think you need another padded piece on its back like the front one in stead of the straps only, which can scatter the force and make it more comfortable. As the harness we do are not for lifting, but we can try for this idea. Do you need to lift your dog for a long time when climbing or just couple of minutes in some place where he need help?
 
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Mraz

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Yes, defenitely narrower webbing and padding to make it more comfortable.

Not looking for dedicated climbing harness but one that can help with carrying the dog for short time and be a normal harness rest of the time.

I also tried this version and it's even smaller, lighter and more comfortable, it puts weight of the dog on his pelvis. Straps need to be adjustable, I was low on webbing so I made it like this. It alsoo needs a grab handle. It would be cool if harnes came with small sew-in pouch (or even a normal molle pouch) that is used to store the second part.
 

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We need to be very careful with products for "lifting" pets because the user settings may require advanced safety gear. It's the main concern and why we haven't tried to make any dedicated sport harnesses for pets.
 
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I'm not sure I'm understanding you, are you talking about materials and hardware for harness or is there anything else that is a concern?
 

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This is us few days ago and the reason I'm looking for this sort harness :) I had to empty my backpack to carry him over some terrain and then go back to get my stuff.
Okay Got it. What @Editor said means we need to very careful when doing this kind of harness, OR it may cause the problem, dog may get hurt, if the quality is bad and the straps got ripped, which is very dangerious for dogs. We don't want to put them in risk. This is why we don't do this type before.:unsure:
 
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We can still prototype one based the Fire Watcher Harness but you need to be very very careful when testing it. What's the weight of your dog?
 

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I know it's a tricky product to make but 1TG has good reputation and a product like this coult open up a whole new market for you guys. Few companies make this type of harnesses and none of them are in the "tactical" niche wich is the IN thing now.

Tref is a standard schnauzer so at 40-45 lbs weight.
 

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It's completed already. Still need 2 more mesh sleeves for the back legs so it will be more comfortable when dog is being hung. We use the metal buckle for the connection area to make sure it's strong enough to hold these 2 parts.
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Mraz

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Tested on the dog model myself. Seems work. I will send it to you for review when two mesh sleeves are completed. No worries.
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I think this will be perfect as long as it can carry the dogs weight, I'll test it with double weight to check if buckles perform and then give it a real test in the mountains.
 

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Cool~(y)
We will strenthen the stitches around two D-rings before the shipment. No worries.