1TG Pillowed Sleeping Pad 01

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I recently got my sleep pad in the mail. I had a 1 on 1 discussion with Han Tiger last week and he sent me a discount code for my time. I picked up a sleep pad, waterproof bag and a face balaclava which will all be shown here in due time. I chose the 'see me from afar' orange.
Weight is listed at 650gm made of 20d nylon with a tpu coating. For dimensions and such please check out the 1T store site Here.
It unpacked and unrolled easily, inflated in about 30 seconds with my wife's hair dryer and a funnel as I don't have a fancy Thermarest inflator handy. In the field one might get creative with the car exhaust or just employ one of the children to spend time manually inflating it. After the initial inflating I gave about 4 more breaths until it was as as rigid as I could get it.
I laid on it on my back and on my sides, I am not a stomach sleeper so.... On my back was I was completely levitated from the ground so I guess there would be a fair R value to the comfort. On my sides my hip bones were touching the ground , just. I am not a big guy but I think the physics of size and mass would be similar for everyone, IE if you weigh more than the 150lbs that I do I would assume your surface area would be greater than mine therefore dispersing your weight over a larger area and hence achieving a result relatively equal to mine.
The length was very sufficient, I am about 5'11" and I had a few inches of pad to spare beneath my feet with my head on the pillow portion.
Deflation was SUPER easy. I opened the valve and watched it for about 20 seconds and with gravity alone it deflated to perhaps 5% of air left inside. I folded it and rolled it up simply and within 2 minutes it was stowed with no drama.
End result, for $33 on sale (currently) and even at $47 (regular price) I feel this product is fair value.

I forgot to mention it also comes with 2 repair patches and a fine stuff sack that accommodates it easily.
Bought it, paid for it, like it. I will reply to this thread when I can sleep a few nights on it.
 

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Rin

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So to sleeping on one's side, the size of this pad should be wider, right? Apart from this, what else do u think need to be adjusted?
 
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So to sleeping on one's side, the size of this pad should be wider, right? Apart from this, what else do u think need to be adjusted?
No, not at all Rin. The sleeping on the side makes the body's footprint smaller and compresses the weight on the pad making it compress between top and bottom leaving the body parts potentially touching the ground and unpadded. At first try I like the pad, I need to try it with sleeping bag and in my tent or hammock for further review.
 
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No, not at all Rin. The sleeping on the side makes the body's footprint smaller and compresses the weight on the pad making it compress between top and bottom leaving the body parts potentially touching the ground and unpadded. At first try I like the pad, I need to try it with sleeping bag and in my tent or hammock for further review.
Got it. SO it is because of the stress that the body have to the pad that causes this problem. Aha~I misread your message, sorry.
 

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Maybe yes, maybe no. I like the pad overall but my observation when lying on the side, which is the smallest body footprint, makes the body parts maybe touching the ground under the pad, maybe. :)
Is it an option to add a thin closed foam layer to the pad so when you press through the inflated part you still have some cushioning?

My experience with inflatable pads is that the insulation is a bit so-so, what is your experience with this pad?
 

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does it need to be thicker? cause you said your hip bones were touching the ground when you laid in your side
 

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A lot of pads these days, inflate to 3-5 inches thick. They also are available in insulated and non insulated models. The insulated models have additional insulation of some sort inside as @Sandspoor mentions and this increases the R value. The R value is an important factor in my mind, as in addition to comfort (body off the ground) the mat should provide insulation between the person and the ground. This is where a lot of heat loss can occur. So a good mat can work in conjunction with a good bag.
I can’t tell from the pictures, but is there a one way valve to help with inflation? This would be critical if you were using it hiking.
 
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Is it an option to add a thin closed foam layer to the pad so when you press through the inflated part you still have some cushioning?

My experience with inflatable pads is that the insulation is a bit so-so, what is your experience with this pad?
Most certainly you could add a closed cell pad underneath, I regularly do that in cooler temps with my thermarest ridge rest and my self inflating thermarest used as a pair. So far my experience with this pad is laying on it for about ten minutes on Tuesday night, considering I just got it :)
 
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A lot of pads these days, inflate to 3-5 inches thick. They also are available in insulated and non insulated models. The insulated models have additional insulation of some sort inside as @Sandspoor mentions and this increases the R value. The R value is an important factor in my mind, as in addition to comfort (body off the ground) the mat should provide insulation between the person and the ground. This is where a lot of heat loss can occur. So a good mat can work in conjunction with a good bag.
I can’t tell from the pictures, but is there a one way valve to help with inflation? This would be critical if you were using it hiking.
Yes, the inflation valve has three positions: full open, closed by one way valve (rubber gasket style) and fully closed.
 
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does it need to be thicker? cause you said your hip bones were touching the ground when you laid in your side
I dont know if thicker really solves the issue, adding body weight to the pad will cause overall expansion of the material (of the whole pad) to a balance point, how thick would the pad (inflated) have to be to allow for full body weight to be place on the shoulder/hip plane to allow for this expansion yet not allow the compression of the pad in the localized area to be brought to zero where the particular body part may be in contact with the ground.
Has anyone ever seen a hybrid pad? Thin layer of closed cell foam on the bottom with an inflatable pad married to the top for customization of comfort? I imagine it would roll up not much larger than the closed cell foam portion, considering how small this pad packs it may be an idea to pursue.
 
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I have a Sea to Summit Insulated pad that rolls up to about the size of a Nalgene bottle. It is insulated, so I think the R value is over 5. It is inflated on both sides of the layer of insulation (top and bottom) and is smaller individual cells so , when fully inflated no body parts touch the ground. It costs over $200 though. I’ll post some pics when I get a chance.
 
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My previous setup with one open cell and one self inflating mattress or a combination of the two has served me for years, the price of the 1T sleep pad made it budget conscious even if I don't end up using it that often. It may end up in a get home bag or some such due to its relative light weight and excellent compactability. I don't allocate $200 for a single sleep pad, not currently at least, thats a bit much for me.
 

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Sleeping pads when coming to portability will always be expensive to get quality and comfort. Its the one item on my kit that I went with comfort over portability and why I went with the ALPS Mountaineering Comfort series due to self inflating, has the little rubber dots for non slip on tent floor and the right amount of padding. Cost was $75cdn. It works well, my hip when on my side doesn't touch ground. Rolled up it isn't that bad at 21"L x 5". Fits perfectly on the bottom of my backpack and was better then my Canadian Forces issued one and pretty much was carrying that style anyways on my gear.